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		<title>Comment on More Than One Path to Transparency: Glassdoor.com by magaril pavel</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/more-than-one-path-to-transparency-glassdoor-com/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magaril pavel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glassdoor.com is great website, but it is hard to find over there bad and negative reviews. If you want to check your future employer&#039;s background properly, you should take a look at www.jobreviewusa.info You&#039;ll find there thousands of companies reviewed by employees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glassdoor.com is great website, but it is hard to find over there bad and negative reviews. If you want to check your future employer&#8217;s background properly, you should take a look at <a href="http://www.jobreviewusa.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.jobreviewusa.info</a> You&#8217;ll find there thousands of companies reviewed by employees.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Personnel Selection by George Guajardo</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/broken-personnel-selection/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Guajardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on all points. That it is so unnecessarily is perhaps the biggest shame of all. Most of the time, I/O psychologists are pretty hard on themselves about this. The thinking I hear most often is that it is a failure of outreach on our part and than if only we did more to &quot;get the word out&quot; selection practices would improve. While I agree we could be doing more on that front, I&#039;m not sure we can realistically change the hearts and minds of HR and management people by ourselves. We need to sell ourselves to those groups, both academics and practitioners and make a solid business case for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on all points. That it is so unnecessarily is perhaps the biggest shame of all. Most of the time, I/O psychologists are pretty hard on themselves about this. The thinking I hear most often is that it is a failure of outreach on our part and than if only we did more to &#8220;get the word out&#8221; selection practices would improve. While I agree we could be doing more on that front, I&#8217;m not sure we can realistically change the hearts and minds of HR and management people by ourselves. We need to sell ourselves to those groups, both academics and practitioners and make a solid business case for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Personnel Selection by Piers Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piers Steel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate your frustration regarding personnel selection as in most cases is indeed a little better than random chance. Utility analysis indicates that the difference between an average employee and someone at the 85 percentile is worth many tens of thousands of dollars per year. Random chance means you only get the average and only if you are a large organization (i.e., law of large numbers). Small businesses might be stuck with an awful employee who drives them out of business. 

Most frustrating thing is that we could fix all this relatively easily. We have the capacity to build a selection system that  could put trillions of dollars more into the economy, reduce unemployment, increase job satisfaction, and even improve immigration (i.e., select immigrants with aptitudes needed). It just needs to be implemented and yet few seem interested in the topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your frustration regarding personnel selection as in most cases is indeed a little better than random chance. Utility analysis indicates that the difference between an average employee and someone at the 85 percentile is worth many tens of thousands of dollars per year. Random chance means you only get the average and only if you are a large organization (i.e., law of large numbers). Small businesses might be stuck with an awful employee who drives them out of business. </p>
<p>Most frustrating thing is that we could fix all this relatively easily. We have the capacity to build a selection system that  could put trillions of dollars more into the economy, reduce unemployment, increase job satisfaction, and even improve immigration (i.e., select immigrants with aptitudes needed). It just needs to be implemented and yet few seem interested in the topic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Personnel Selection by Richard N. Landers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard N. Landers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid I was basing that only on statistical reasoning and a hunch.  Small business research is really tricky - the organizational sciences are really primarily targeted at big businesses with thousands of employees, because large samples is where randomness can be modeled effectively.

But yes, I agree that a particularly good or bad employee has a great deal more potential to affect operations in a small business versus a large one.  That&#039;s really what I mean by &quot;luck.&quot;  If they get a very good employee, they won&#039;t know how to engage that employee (retain them), but if they get a bad employee, they may derail the whole company.  If they get a lot of middling employees, everything will probably be fine - but appropriate management and good selection would have made things so much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I was basing that only on statistical reasoning and a hunch.  Small business research is really tricky &#8211; the organizational sciences are really primarily targeted at big businesses with thousands of employees, because large samples is where randomness can be modeled effectively.</p>
<p>But yes, I agree that a particularly good or bad employee has a great deal more potential to affect operations in a small business versus a large one.  That&#8217;s really what I mean by &#8220;luck.&#8221;  If they get a very good employee, they won&#8217;t know how to engage that employee (retain them), but if they get a bad employee, they may derail the whole company.  If they get a lot of middling employees, everything will probably be fine &#8211; but appropriate management and good selection would have made things so much better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Personnel Selection by George Guajardo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Guajardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard, this is an interesting line of thought. I never really considered how selection works in small businesses. If I were pressed to venture a guess, I suspect the &quot;average&quot; candidate will probably do a decent job. Given that the odds of randomly selecting a candidate near the mean, I think small businesses will likely do ok. Of course, a really bad candidate might have a devastating effect on small businesses. In fact, now that I think about it, it may be the case that many small businesses are ill equipped to handle particularly good candidates, given the disproportional influence owners have on the success of the organization.

Of course, this is anecdotal and I will be the first to admit my exposure to small businesses is not as diverse as it could be. Does your experience lead you to a different conclusion?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, this is an interesting line of thought. I never really considered how selection works in small businesses. If I were pressed to venture a guess, I suspect the &#8220;average&#8221; candidate will probably do a decent job. Given that the odds of randomly selecting a candidate near the mean, I think small businesses will likely do ok. Of course, a really bad candidate might have a devastating effect on small businesses. In fact, now that I think about it, it may be the case that many small businesses are ill equipped to handle particularly good candidates, given the disproportional influence owners have on the success of the organization.</p>
<p>Of course, this is anecdotal and I will be the first to admit my exposure to small businesses is not as diverse as it could be. Does your experience lead you to a different conclusion?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broken Personnel Selection by Richard N. Landers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard N. Landers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I think that many of the small businesses that do succeed only do so because they were lucky enough to have generally high quality applicants to choose from in the first place.  Hiring at random still gives you good hires if almost everyone you could have hired would have done fine anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I think that many of the small businesses that do succeed only do so because they were lucky enough to have generally high quality applicants to choose from in the first place.  Hiring at random still gives you good hires if almost everyone you could have hired would have done fine anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Engagement Research: Extensive Effort, Limited Insight by George Guajardo</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/engagement-research-extensive-effort-limited-insight/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Guajardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the support David. I&#039;m glad to lend my voice to any discussion about workplace attitudes and behaviors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support David. I&#8217;m glad to lend my voice to any discussion about workplace attitudes and behaviors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Engagement Research: Extensive Effort, Limited Insight by David Zinger</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/engagement-research-extensive-effort-limited-insight/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Zinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George:
Well said about the research and engagement. I hope I can support your efforts and work as this would be so valuable for employee engagement. I appreciated your tone and voice in this post.
David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George:<br />
Well said about the research and engagement. I hope I can support your efforts and work as this would be so valuable for employee engagement. I appreciated your tone and voice in this post.<br />
David</p>
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		<title>Comment on You’re not ugly. You’re off-brand. by George Guajardo</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/you%e2%80%99re-not-ugly-you%e2%80%99re-off-brand/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Guajardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Richard: I too used that line in a lecture on selection systems a few weeks ago. I think it has been bouncing around my brain looking for any excuse to be published. 

In terms of a legal attack, you make a very good point. A few years back I ran across some research suggesting that humans were predisposed to find lighter skin tones more attractive. I forget what the effect size was, so I am not sure if it would be sufficient to result in adverse impact, but it was statistically significant. Basically, people rating physical  attractiveness of a person&#039;s image were more likely to rate them as attractive if they were Caucasian (they controlled for rater ethnicity). If findings hold outside the lab then American Apparel and anyone else using face-to-face interviews may find themselves in a sticky situation.

To be honest, I find it very difficult to dismiss their aspirational branding argument. If they change their selection practices, they risk changing their brand. Besides, this organization is not the only one selecting against the ugly, fat, or funny-looking; they just couldn&#039;t keep it under wraps. I suspect the fickle tastes of American Youth will take care of this soon enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard: I too used that line in a lecture on selection systems a few weeks ago. I think it has been bouncing around my brain looking for any excuse to be published. </p>
<p>In terms of a legal attack, you make a very good point. A few years back I ran across some research suggesting that humans were predisposed to find lighter skin tones more attractive. I forget what the effect size was, so I am not sure if it would be sufficient to result in adverse impact, but it was statistically significant. Basically, people rating physical  attractiveness of a person&#8217;s image were more likely to rate them as attractive if they were Caucasian (they controlled for rater ethnicity). If findings hold outside the lab then American Apparel and anyone else using face-to-face interviews may find themselves in a sticky situation.</p>
<p>To be honest, I find it very difficult to dismiss their aspirational branding argument. If they change their selection practices, they risk changing their brand. Besides, this organization is not the only one selecting against the ugly, fat, or funny-looking; they just couldn&#8217;t keep it under wraps. I suspect the fickle tastes of American Youth will take care of this soon enough.</p>
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		<title>Comment on You’re not ugly. You’re off-brand. by Richard N. Landers</title>
		<link>http://deltaorg.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/you%e2%80%99re-not-ugly-you%e2%80%99re-off-brand/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard N. Landers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I laughed out loud when I read &quot;Ugly is not a protected class.&quot; because that is word for word what I told my undergrads when we discussed the legality of selection systems just a week or two ago.  

The avenue for legal attack on this company, if one were to desire such a thing, would be to try to show that their standards of attractiveness for hiring are unequal on the basis of a protected class.  I think it would be very difficult to prove, for example, that you were using the same standard of attractiveness in hiring both men and women.  If your bar was higher for one group, that&#039;s adverse impact. 

On the other hand, &quot;the American way&quot; is to let them do whatever they want and let the market sort them out.  If consumers were all that outraged, they&#039;d stop shopping there.  If it helps their brand image more than it hurts, then they must be doing something right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed out loud when I read &#8220;Ugly is not a protected class.&#8221; because that is word for word what I told my undergrads when we discussed the legality of selection systems just a week or two ago.  </p>
<p>The avenue for legal attack on this company, if one were to desire such a thing, would be to try to show that their standards of attractiveness for hiring are unequal on the basis of a protected class.  I think it would be very difficult to prove, for example, that you were using the same standard of attractiveness in hiring both men and women.  If your bar was higher for one group, that&#8217;s adverse impact. </p>
<p>On the other hand, &#8220;the American way&#8221; is to let them do whatever they want and let the market sort them out.  If consumers were all that outraged, they&#8217;d stop shopping there.  If it helps their brand image more than it hurts, then they must be doing something right?</p>
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